FR up to something?

[StupidDog]

I've noticed someone who insta joined and posted close to hundreds of "tables" on "that" site (FR). The first problem is that usually one option worked (cheat happens anyone?) while the rest relied on downloading a third party app to "enable" the rest of the options. The same poster then replaces all of the tables with zero options and only an advert to the third party crap.

I've seen a LOT of people posting that this is happening and getting their post deleted super fast. I mentioned it and got my post deleted and some stupid private message from one of the mods saying i was "abusing the table maker" or something. I literally just said there were no options and only an advert script sneaked in. Honestly, I'm not stupid enough to download anything but this is clearly malware being spread. I sent a message to EVERY admin and was ignored. That alone says volumes.....

How many people are downloading these potential payloads? Literally everything points to them trying to make some kind of creepy move. That site is beyond redemption now. I don't trust a single thing that comes from that site. How the hell did once good table makers become people creepy tyrants that want to cheat and lie to us??? There's ZERO reason they would allow this, ZERO reason they would ignore it and allow it after multiple reports.

I know there have been reason upon reason to stay away from that site but for me I'm done. They're done. They're black hat. They're no better than those people who pretend to be warez sites and upload viruses. Imagine learning what they learned and then just taking the dumbest and most stupid option to take that knowledge? All of their tables and trainers now mean NOTHING because they decided to become scammers and exploit people. Thanks STN, Thanks Sunbean, thanks Fakerex. You're just dirty exploiters and scammers now. Thanks for what you gave in the past but what you've become is pretty dirty. Don't be proud, be ashamed. Glad I'll never have to face that decision.

For me, that site is something that should be on every malware/antivirus protection. They've done this FAR too many times now, they're clearly and simply bad people.

[Rondo]

That uploader is part of Group X. He pays STN and therefore is allowed to post those pseudo-tables. And according to your post full protection from the FRF staff is also included.

[rickyn227]

I'd say I'm surprised but this utter scumbag behaviour is pretty on-brand for them at this point. Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen one single reply from Sunbeam, to literally anyone, that didn't make me feel like I wanted to punch him in the face. My FR account has also required manual admin approval for literally anything and everything I've attempted to post/comment for the past two or so years, all because I asked if anyone had a copy of one of TheyCallMeTim13's tables after they fucked his account and removed all his tables. Iirc the reason I got given was something along the lines of "promoting FR's enemies" or some other similar childish bullshit. They collectively have the most fragile ego's on the internet that I've ever seen.

[dr_NHA]

Honestly There Isnt A Need To Download Additional Payloads,
There Is A Reason Why Microsoft Added CEDriver To The Blocklist,
Its Because CEDriver Can Give U Root Access Over Your Hardware,
There Isnt Much Of A Security Check To Stop It Either,
And Because All The Functionality Is Exposed To LUA Its Very Dangerous,
Even If U Have Autorun Turned Off U Can Still Execute LUA Via Auto Assemble Scripts.

So Dont Be Scared Of Another Exe Ect As The Resources For A Hacker Are Already Inside Cheat Engine
There Are Proof Of Concepts Out There And Basic Scripts U Can Tie Together To Create Danger...
But Anyway Its A Scummy Thing To Make Someone Download A Modded Cheat Engine Ect For Something That Cheat Engine Can Clearly Do,
I Mean If U Look Around The Communitys U Will See Cheat Engine Can Do Anything U Want,
U Just Have To Be Skilled Enough In The Cheat Engine Environment

• dr NHA, OCT.com 2024

[StupidDog]

WTF?

I've been getting some pretty damn rude and toxic messages from a moderator there saying that I was being toxic (yet he's totally unable to prove it because he deleted EVERY post of mine). So now people can pay to spread their malware on there? Thats CRAZY. I had no idea that site and the people that run it had sunk so low. I've just asked an admin to delete or ban my account, I've banned cookies on my browser from that site and have no intention of supporting the site any more.

What a complete shame but honestly, it's not expected after some of the crap they've pulled in the last few years. They've deleted everything about their creepy behaviour off their own site but thank god its documented ALL over reddit. They've alienated some of the best table makers so there's NO reason to be there any more. FR is now as bad (or worse) that CH. Sunbeam litterally because the exact person he spends most of his time bitching about. STN is now just a paid shill to allow people to spread malware so he can make a couple bucks every month. Simply can't believe how they turned from good guys into scammers.

[Hallowedsoul08]

Greenhouse, one of the table makers in cheat engine, has actually gone to WeMod, althought it was quite the quiet move.

Most of the other table makers end up making their own discord and/or patreon as well. DrummerXI for example, I don't know about recifense and other folks.

I think everyone is now no longer centralized with one mega forum, now that you have individuals all spread out now, so it's basically de-centralized.

[StupidDog]

Don't think I ever actually uploaded any tables to FR (thank goodness) but I did help people with simple hacks. They won't get any more support from me but I'll hang out here more often and try and send people this way. Looks like most of the good table makers have jumped ship already so I'll just let them fester in their little pit.

They may think they can keep their dirty tricks hidden by deleting posts on their forum but thats all the power they'll ever have. This info is out there and its only going to get worse for them. Disgusted by the admin (STD) allowing people to break rules for cash. I BET MONEY that he sits at home and recieves benfits because he's too lazy to work.

[Marcus101RR]

WTF?

I've been getting some pretty damn rude and toxic messages from a moderator there saying that I was being toxic (yet he's totally unable to prove it because he deleted EVERY post of mine). So now people can pay to spread their malware on there? That's CRAZY. I had no idea that site and the people that run it had sunk so low. I've just asked an admin to delete or ban my account, I've banned cookies on my browser from that site and have no intention of supporting the site any more.

What a complete shame but honestly, it's not expected after some of the crap they've pulled in the last few years. They've deleted everything about their creepy behavior off their own site but thank god its documented ALL over reddit. They've alienated some of the best table makers so there's NO reason to be there any more. FR is now as bad (or worse) that CH. Sunbeam literally because the exact person he spends most of his time bitching about. STN is now just a paid shill to allow people to spread malware so he can make a couple bucks every month. Simply can't believe how they turned from good guys into scammers.

This is not a surprise to us at all, this started way back when. Still does today, and still will today, the group has lost all respect, sympathy, and moral standards to making cheat tables. The entire administration including STN, SunBeam, and some very few "prized" table makers should be removed from that site, if not, the entire site itself should be removed from the internet and nuked. It has gotten so out of control.

They can't even defend themselves that this is my fault or anyone else's at this point because WE are no longer part of the site now for over a year or more. So blaming us for all this mess, is Satire. I feel bad for the new user who wish to learn to make tables for games they love or even simple indie games, but the higher ups there tell you "Go read a book" essentially expecting new users to learn something from a novel to make tables. Despite the fact that Cheat Engine has its own forums and fearless too to teach them basics on how to make even the simplest of cheats.

Cheating is an artform, a gray line if you will, but it all comes down to WHO, not WHAT you affect in the process. It is just you, who are you harming? No one, but yourself, your fun, your enjoyment. Don't treat cheating as its bad as long as its not causing anyone else harm.

[JustcallmemrX]

The fake OCT org is ran by the malware user mod engine. The invite link goes to his discord.
If Tim13 comes back, can he file a copyright notice on the org site and also file complaints of malware or can you do it Marcas?

To new people joining from FR and and OCT org,
I used to be a member of FR.
The lowlife STN at fearless revolution have let scammers take over and post fake cheat tables with mod engine malware links. the fake OCT .org site is ran by that scammer mod engine (registration goes to him on discord) the same person that promotes his malware mod engine. Those sites can’t be trusted anymore, they are corrupt.
The scammer mod engine might be under a new name, ndck1 or maybe they are helping to spread his scam malware.
If you somehow come across a table here with a scam mod engine link, report it immediately, but I think Marcus is doing a good job at preventing them here.
I’m wanting to become a moderator here later because this has been a great community so far.

[Plebs]

Oh so thats whats up... Was wondering why there were tables with just LUA script to random website imposing as cheat table... Got my 7 year old account nuked for asking question about it without answer. GG

They even change comments on those tables from people who warn about fake table to like "Good cheat table" etc.
That is just absolutely disgusting and scummy.
If they were upfront about it sure i would not have cared but this is straight up scam shenanigans.